I think we should talk less and compare less with performance driven methods, and concentrate more on making physiological methods more understood and transparent for average Joe. It should not be battle physiological vs. entire world. New SmO2 training trend would be more efficient if we would stop talking about “other methods” If I want to sell you my product I never want to talk about other products or even mention them, for many reasons.
Mathematical (FTP, power threshold, VO2max, lactate training, whatever other creative name there is for it) methods have years of aggressive marketing advantage and once someone learns it, they almost preach is as bible, by talking about them in any context we only promote them further.
We all know FTP driven HIIT training will offer big initial gains when used by untrained athletes if they will not injure themselves first in the process, those gains are attractive and appealing.
Many people after initial injury will just give up on sport all together, they will say: it’s not for me, I’m too old. Some more determined, who reached HIIT limit might think: that’s it I’m 40yold that is how far I will ever go…. And just very few, will pursue other methods and will discover Moxy etc.
I’m super new to Moxy, I love it, I really see this as the only way to progress to where I want to be, I already see huge progress in just a bit less than 2 months. (at the end I will show you what I could not do in 6 years, but did 2 days ago)
I’m going to share how I feel as new user, this is not criticism, just honest feedback.
First my background: I was raised in Europe and finish part of my education in Europe, high school and part of university. We had very demanding teachers, they were never saying anything straight, every lecture had context, there was always hidden message for us to decipher. During tests it was always a battle to catch us and trick us, not to help us study (at list that’s what we thought) We asked one question, they have asked 2 questions back trying to get us on the right path, many people were scared to ask, only brave enough were successful. I came to Canada I finished my education literally without any studying as everything seemed very easy, I have quite good job, actually amazing job it is one of those 0.0001% jobs, I think it was all possible because of “terrible” education I received.
Participating in this forum reminds me god old times back in Europe, you ask one question Juerg will ask 2 back trying to point you to the right path. I love it, since I’m used to it, I know what his intentions are, he wants me to think on my own.
I’m afraid many people is not used to it, they will just give up. I understand about incredible value of mental stimulation we get here in this open forum conversations. Many people will not have enough time and simply is used to different (easier) learning style\system, where everything is given to you on the plate and you just have to memorize the stuff, for the test. Unfortunately that’s the world we live in.
Most people will very quickly understand by reading Moxy materials how beneficial this tool can be. This part is covered very well.
But there is really nothing easily outlined that could help people start. It took me few days of reading to finally get to 5-1-5 and other stuff and I was still not sure if I’m doing it properly and what should I look for in the charts
“Start here” read only pinned post:
- Perform your 5-1-5 assessment, description of the protocol in details, also show how different behaviors during assessment could affect outcome, drinking water, seating up, scratching a$$ etc
- Perform your recovery assessment (detailed protocol, describing what could cause to have different outcomes etc.)
- Define your intensity zones.
- How calibration\warmup should be performed and what to look for when doing it.
- Describe different type of limiters and how they could potentially look in reading (yes I know they might look different, but just a sample to illustrate the trends and how to look at data)
- There should be some easy tool allowing to import multiple .csv in to it and be able to quickly zoom in, and align\compare any file. Not everyone is excel master or golden cheetah or https://plot.ly it should be fairly super easy to make with current free java charting solutions, probably 2 days of coding for someone that knows how to code.
We buy Moxy, and learn about 5-1-5, but you really need to get down and dirty and read a lot of posts here go get the essence and have some understanding. I honestly appreciate the current forum model, it is great mental stimulation for me, and while I’m going through posts I learn a lot of other things, it is intellectual treat of some sort, I know people might think I’m nuts.
I can tell you for sure, not many people appreciate mental stimulations and this “complicated/challenging” type of knowledge sharing, we live in era of ADD, news are 2 lines long and we have 10 breaking news a day, everyone is go go go.
More people are opening their eyes, best example: there is 3rd NIRS coming to the market, I’m not sure if that was on your radar: http://humon.io/ not even close to Moxy for many reasons, I will not even mentioned here, I do not want to talk about it for the same reason we should not talk about lactate etc.
Bottom line many peple see FTP treshold limitations..., as good as it is in definding "load" it is quite crapy for measuring training stimulus.
Real life example how Moxy in 1.5 months allowed me to do what I could not do in 6 years with power FTP methods:
While I could easily hit 1000W outside during summer, I could never exceed magic 1k barrier on the trainer, even for one second, it was one of those: I’m too old, I’m not good enough, it is impossible kind of thing, probboly impossible on the trainer without braking bike frame....
2 days ago I had this great indoor trainer session, I hit 1046W on the trainer for 5 seconds, I actually hit it twice in one minute. Booyah!